Thanks Tony and all the others who have chipped in. Please be assured we
are recording all of this for future reference.
Regards
Doug
-----Original Message-----
From: Tony Barry [mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au]
Sent: Friday, 1 March 2002 1:16 PM
To: Doug Jacquier; Link
Cc: Phil Palmer; Wallace Mcgee; Kate Dibben; Garry Putland; Ruth Morris
(E-mail); brabham@ignitiondesign.com.au; Leila Henderson; Mike Vasey
Subject: Re: FW: [LINK] WCIT2002 Community Forum
At 10:45 AM +1030 on 1/3/02, Doug Jacquier wrote:
>http://www.worldcongress2002.org/public/get_involved.asp, which does
>not rely on flash and is accessible to most browsers. Please give us a
>second chance, list members, and have another go at getting involved.
With my text only browser this URL redirects me to
http://www.worldcongress2002.org/flash_sniff.htm which produces a
blank page!
Opening it in iCab I find it opens two windows. One with the URL
above which invites you to download flash but it does not appear to
display anything if you use a text only browser. Even "Ga Away!"
would be better than a blank screen.
The second, which is very slow, being full of graphics and complex
tables to achieve graphical rather than useful effects. My browser,
iCab, has a feature which checks the validity of the HTML code. Its
report on this page is -
>http://www.worldcongress2002.org/public/home.asp
>Warning (1/1): <!DOCTYPE> is missing.
>Warning (123/1): The attribute "LEFTMARGIN" is not allowed for the tag
><BODY>. Warning (123/1): The attribute "TOPMARGIN" is not allowed for
>the tag <BODY>. Error (123/1): In the tag <BODY> the attribute
>"MARGINWIDTH" is not allowed. Error (123/1): In the tag <BODY> the
>attribute "MARGINHEIGHT" is not allowed. Warning (129/224): The
>attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (129/443):
>The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning
>(129/656): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>.
>Warning (129/877): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag
><IMG>. Warning (129/1086): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the
>tag <IMG>. Warning (131/218): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for
>the tag <IMG>. Warning (131/418): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed
>for the tag <IMG>. Warning (131/624): The attribute "NAME" is not
>allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (131/829): The attribute "NAME" is
>not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (131/1050): The attribute "NAME"
>is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (135/291): The attribute
>"NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (135/652): The
>attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (135/1013):
>The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (164/5):
>In the tag <TD> the attribute "WIDTH" should only contain absolute
>pixel values. Warning (167/107): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed
>for the tag <IMG>. Warning (168/5): The attribute "BACKGROUND" is not
>allowed for the tag <TD>. Warning (168/167): The attribute "NAME" is
>not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (168/453): The attribute "NAME"
>is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (168/728): The attribute
>"NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (168/1024): The
>attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning (168/1313):
>The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>. Warning
>(168/1602): The attribute "NAME" is not allowed for the tag <IMG>.
>Error (181/44): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error
>(181/99): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error
>(184/44): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error
>(184/102): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error
>(197/763): The start tag for </P> can't be found. Error (201/5): The
>tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error (205/5): The tag
><FONT> is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error (209/5): The tag <FONT>
>is not part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error (213/5): The tag <FONT> is not
>part of "HTML 4.0 Strict". Error (217/5): The tag <FONT> is not part of
>"HTML 4.0 Strict". Error (222/5): The tag <FONT> is not part of "HTML
>4.0 Strict".
So the page does not specify which version of HTML it is using
(missing <!DOCTYPE>) and is not using HTML 4.0 Strict but an earlier
version.
Despite using styesheets it still uses FONT tags which is an untidy.
>
>2. As for accessibility within the Community Forum, the basics appear
>to be covered; there are alt tags on images, links separated by
>non-link elements etc
If I go to this page directly with a text only browser it appears
quite usable. Hopefully it would pass a bobby test. If the top page
of the site pointed directly to this page,
http://www.worldcongress2002.org/public/home.asp , it would be usable.
>6. As for speed, yes, it contains a lot of text and graphics but that
>does not make it impossible to read using a slow link, just slow, which
>goes with the territory with this type of forum and chat interaction.
And that is one of the reasons I use a text browser for my first scan
of a page. If I see enough to interest me I proceed. If I see too
little to indicate what the site is or how to navigate I make a
judgement about the competence of the designers and go elsewhere.
Tony
-- phone +61 2 6241 7659 mailto:me@Tony-Barry.emu.id.au http://tony-barry.emu.id.au/people/tony/index.html
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